Comments on: Worship Symposium: Day 3 http://www.whateverthings.org/2007/01/30/worship-symposium-day-3/ All in his name ... Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:29:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Carl http://www.whateverthings.org/2007/01/30/worship-symposium-day-3/#comment-26 Carl Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:39:31 +0000 http://whateverthings.org/2007/01/31/worship-symposium-day-3/#comment-26 I have been thinking more about what the presenter said about punishment - that God never punishes Christians for sin, since all punishment was taken by Christ on the cross. I had never thought about quite that way. I still haven't thought it through all the way. Some of it is semantics, but I think while we may say that God never punishes us for our sins because the punishment is taken by Christ, that does not mean there are not consequences or discipline resulting from sin. We are forgiven but sometimes also disciplined for the sake of our own transformation. I have been thinking more about what the presenter said about punishment - that God never punishes Christians for sin, since all punishment was taken by Christ on the cross. I had never thought about quite that way. I still haven’t thought it through all the way. Some of it is semantics, but I think while we may say that God never punishes us for our sins because the punishment is taken by Christ, that does not mean there are not consequences or discipline resulting from sin. We are forgiven but sometimes also disciplined for the sake of our own transformation.

]]> By: eBoda http://www.whateverthings.org/2007/01/30/worship-symposium-day-3/#comment-25 eBoda Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:47:14 +0000 http://whateverthings.org/2007/01/31/worship-symposium-day-3/#comment-25 "Then God shows up, and says, “Look a hippo.”" LOL Loved this!!!! Is suffering the consequences of our sin (or someone else's sin) "punishment"? It can seem so. But I don't think God punishes us in that way. He doesn't always intervene to rescue us, but that's because he has another plan. Obviously he allows sin and suffering... does that mean it comes from him? Hmmmmmm. Personally I think every single thing can have some redemptive value. Often times it's beyond our human capabilities to get there on our own, but that's where the miracle comes in. The Lord changes us or others, orchestrates a good thing out of an evil event, and/or makes the seemingly impossible happen. It's a God thing that we can't conceive of until it comes to pass. Interesting stuff to think about. And when we get tired of thinking and trying to figure things out... we find our relief by going to the zoo! (Loved that!!!) Let God worry about all these details...... Thanks for sharing. “Then God shows up, and says, “Look a hippo.””
LOL Loved this!!!!

Is suffering the consequences of our sin (or someone else’s sin) “punishment”? It can seem so. But I don’t think God punishes us in that way. He doesn’t always intervene to rescue us, but that’s because he has another plan. Obviously he allows sin and suffering… does that mean it comes from him? Hmmmmmm. Personally I think every single thing can have some redemptive value. Often times it’s beyond our human capabilities to get there on our own, but that’s where the miracle comes in. The Lord changes us or others, orchestrates a good thing out of an evil event, and/or makes the seemingly impossible happen. It’s a God thing that we can’t conceive of until it comes to pass.

Interesting stuff to think about. And when we get tired of thinking and trying to figure things out… we find our relief by going to the zoo! (Loved that!!!) Let God worry about all these details……

Thanks for sharing.

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